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Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
The other night I was up late sewing, and I had a dream about the hatrack threads unravelling. I thought about it and realised that that's what hatrack is: it's a fabric and the threads weave us together into a community. When something as big as the hug thread disappears, part of the community "unravells". These threads are what keeps hatrack together as a community.

I'm done being sappy now....

(I edited this so I'm not sounding mean.)

[ October 14, 2003, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Eruve Nandiriel ]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
*waits for sentimental Alvin Maker reference*
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
Actually, I was going to mention "philotes".... [Wink]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
LOL. I know what you mean, but it's a little unfair to single Nate out.

Actually, to me, I can almost feel threads like that... To me, a story weaves itself together, which is odd, because I've never weaved or even sewn or crocheted. I dunno what it is about the idea that just makes *sense* to me.
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
who's nate?
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Nate is T_Smith, as anyone who posted outside the hug thread would know. [Smile]

Seriously, the hug thread was more like embroidery on the outside of a very big fabric. *grin*
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
I post outside of the hug thread. [Big Grin]

Sorry if it looked like I was "singling him out". I didn't mean to, and I'm not blaming him or anything.
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
One of my math teachers had a dream where he was a giant pair of scissors cutting moebius strips. But that's another story.

I'm not sure it's the threads themselves that weave us together. Sure, the hug thread was an important part of hatrack, and it's sad to see it go. But I think what weaves us together is the friendships we've formed with each other. Deleting a thread can never take that away. After all, we can always make another hug thread.
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
Let's all hold hands and sing Kum By Ya
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
After that can we sing "Dust in the Wind"?

[Smile]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
OK but I'm not doing the chorus. Last time I did, a knight on a big black horse hit me over the head with a Sony stereo.

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Laurenz0 (Member # 5336) on :
 
Is it such a good thing that community is so tight? Whoo boy i'm going to be killed for that one.

But seriously, this forum is no longer a discussion. Anybody who actually wants to discuss something gets shunned. This close knit community seems to to get together to agree about stuff.

Its rare that I see any discussion going on, and the last really interesting one was one I started. By interesting I mean a debate, like, a real one.

Right now all this site is friends chatting. Not really what a discussion forum is about if you ask me.

But no one would ask me anyway.

[ October 15, 2003, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: Laurenz0 ]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Laurenz0, what do you REALLY think? [Wink]
 
Posted by larisse (Member # 2221) on :
 
Icarus... as long as it's the Kansas version they play in Highlander: The Series , I am a go on a jam session. Of course then I'll burst into tears, and I'll need some ice cream to cheer me up. Where's Annie when you need her... where's the ice cream thread for that matter.

And as for the topic, those threads and connections that Hushidh could see in the Homecoming series came to mind for me. But since both come from OSC's mind, that should be understandable.
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
"Its rare that I see any discussion going on, and the last really interesting one was one I started."

Someday, kid, you'll do something to merit the ego. Look us up when it happens.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Tom knows. He's earned his. [Wink]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
Yep. *grin* And you'll notice that even I have never actually said that the only good threads are ones I start. [Wink]
 
Posted by Laurenz0 (Member # 5336) on :
 
Actually, I wasn't being egotistical at all. I'm just saying, I'm really the only one who creates a forum with alot of outright disagreement (that i've seen, I could be wrong) . Maybe its because I know everybody hates me so I have no reputation on the line. Which is why I say, the closeness of the hatrack enviroment takes away from the ability to debate. Now, for a lot of people thats just fine, I'm just voicing my opinion.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
You're the only one in the forum who starts threads with any disagreement in them?
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
*Calls in from outside the room*

Hey guys! Is something going on in there? I think I hear voices but I can't get in. There's some kind of giant, inflated head blocking the doorway...

Interesting threads come and go. Right now, I'd agree with you. There isn't much I find interesting that's going on. In a week or two, I'm sure there will be again.
 
Posted by MaureenJanay (Member # 2935) on :
 
Bob-

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! [ROFL]

*ahem*
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
*gingerly pokes 0's head with pin*
 
Posted by MaureenJanay (Member # 2935) on :
 
Gah, Tom! Stop that!
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
Kum By Yah, My Lord
Kum By Yah....

I doesn't neccisarily have to be a thread with lots of discussion and people disagreeing. We can learn about as much from each other by agreeing, and shared interests and stuff.

And apperently this thread wasn't very interesting since it sank to the second page....
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
quote:
I'm really the only one who creates a forum with alot of outright disagreement
How long have you been lurking/posting? I guarantee that you're not the only one that has done this. True, we have toned the debate atmosphere down in the last couple years, but I still see good discussions going on. "Discussion" does not necessarily mean that disagreement exists.

For a little more disagreement than hatrack has to offer, head over to ornery.com. [Wink] But, be warned: people on that forum also agree with each other sometimes. Heaven forbid!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
To me this thread title should be rewritten as 'I dreamt of hatrack threads unraveling'. It's in iambic pentameter that way, and dreamt is just a lot cooler word than dreamed, for some reason. Every time I read this thread title, I mentally rewrite it like that. <laughs>
 
Posted by Erik Slaine (Member # 5583) on :
 
Seems to be a lot of dreaming on Hatrack lately.
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
"this thread title should be rewritten as 'I dreamt of hatrack threads unraveling'. It's in iambic pentameter that way"

*stares blankly at ak*
 
Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
I take it that suggestion does not commend itself to you? <laughs>
 
Posted by Ethics Gradient (Member # 878) on :
 
More to the point, I think Eruve may not have a clue what iambic pentameter is.

[Razz]
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
While it is iambic pentameter, it's not particularly pretty iambic pentameter, since it requires one to draw out unraveling more than usual. Pronounced naturally it's only nine syllables.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
I can't hear iambic pentameter in my head... It takes me a while to see it.
 
Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
Oh, sorry about that! Iambic pentamater is the most popular metrical form in English. Shakespeare used it all the time, for instance. It goes like this, "bah BUM bah BUM bah BUM bah BUM". A single "bah BUM" is called an iamb, and when you put five of them in a row it's known as iambic pentameter.

Two lines together of iambic pentameter that rhyme are known as a heroic couplet. Lots of verse uses this form, too. The first Saturday of each month has of late been declared Talk in Heroic Couplets Day on Hatrack, though on the first ever TiHC day earlier this month the din of all the people NOT talking in heroic couplets reached a deafening roar. <laughs> I can't see it ever becoming hugely popular but it's sort of fun like Uruk-Haiku only not as clever. [Smile] Mainly it's great practice for aspiring poets.

The line "I dreamt of hatrack threads unraveling" sounds like perfectly good iambic pentameter to me. I DO pronounce unraveling with four syllables, I think. Do most people not? The 'ing' doesn't have much stress, but having the meter be exactly singsongy regular is not great form, either. Especially if carried over for line after line. [Smile]
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
*stares blankly*

Sorry, I was never any good with English, or poetry, or spelling or......
But I get what you mean now. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
ak, I just learned more in your post than in 4 years of high school and almost 5 years of COLLEGE! (exaggeration, but I think I have forgotten EVERYTHING from all my language learning and it seems to make more sense to me now anyway. [Smile] )
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
I can never forget what Iambic Pentameter sounds like, because of the way my Humanities teacher repeated it all the time... She amuses.

THANK YOU BURTNESS!!!
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
Aaarrrg! Now my title annoys me every time I look at it. I can't stand it anymore!!!!
*gasp*
must...change...title...
 
Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
<laughs> When I saw the change I was like "Whoa! She did it!" That's awesome! I really love the way it sounds like that.

Now let's make a whole sonnet.

What's the second line?

If we do one of those with the ABABCDCDEFEFGG rhyme scheme, what sort of sonnet is that? I can't remember if that's a Spencerian sonnet or what. Does anyone know?

I think we're probably going to have to use travelling as the rhyme two lines down, you think? And we should definitely mention philotes. Eruve, it can be about your dream, and about hatrack. That would be neat! [Smile]

I dreamt of hatrack threads unravelling
The other night, when I'd been up late sewing
And ....... travelling
When ........ going.

?

[ October 14, 2003, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: ana kata ]
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
something about people babbling
that rhymes with unravelling
 
Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
Oh yes! Much better! Babbling is great!
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
Anyone else wanna help with this, too?
 


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