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Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
 
mmm... pi [Hail]

[ September 28, 2003, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Julie ]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Cayk is better.
 
Posted by unohoo (Member # 5490) on :
 
Oh, I'm listening to "The Life of Pi" and it's a lovely book. [Smile]
 
Posted by meltingsnowman (Member # 4559) on :
 
From memory...
Pi = 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067...
[Razz]
 
Posted by raventh1 (Member # 3750) on :
 
The movie is Interesting.
 
Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
I have it memorized to 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944... It is an awesome number! [Hail]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
From memory:
3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651323823066470...

At one point I had 170 digits after the decimal. [Big Grin]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by MaydayDesiax (Member # 5012) on :
 
::blinks:: I'm lucky if I remember that pi rounds out to roughtly 3.14 on my math tests...
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
From memory: I think I need some cheetos.

After that everything is sorta blank.
 
Posted by Toretha (Member # 2233) on :
 
My friend tim has a whole book of pi......she was absolutely delighted to get it for her birthday.
 
Posted by pwiscombe (Member # 181) on :
 
Pi search page

http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery

For example:

E . N . D . E . R
5 . 14. 4 . 5 . 18

The string 5144518 was found at position 5513191 counting from the first digit after the decimal point. The 3. is not counted.
 
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
 
pi caution big (35 million digits)

[ September 28, 2003, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: HollowEarth ]
 
Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
 
My birthday is in there!
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
Can you quantify that statment, Xavier?

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
Ναι, εξηγήστε αυτοΰ
Pi = Greek = Bean!! Hmmm...this isn't the Ender forum...
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
e, isn't that about 2.718281828459045235360287471352662497757247093699959574966967627724076630353? Then e^2 is around 7.3890560989306502272304274605714.

So... what does this scale represent?

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
A nice little engineering approximation for you folks: π ≈ e ≈ 3
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
My old boyfriend had pi memorized to some insane decimal place, and, feeling sappy one day, I baked him an apple pi. (a pie with the pi symbol on top) It was pretty amusing, but so not worth the effort in the long run. [Razz]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
Who exactly was that " [Razz] " directed at?

And Saxon, I hate you. And I love you. I'll go either way! [Big Grin]

(All that Jazz quote [Big Grin] ).

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
You, Hobbes. Because you're cute when you recite pi.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
Well I'm just cute all the time aren't I? [Big Grin] [Wink] [Big Grin]

By the way, my pet tiger Hobbes, really is cute all the time. [Big Grin]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
Actually, I think maybe I misuse the tongue smiley. I don't mean it as sticking my tongue out at someone, but more to just emphasize my own silliness. I use it wherever I would use it in real life, only without the raspberry noise. Maybe I'm just narcissistic about the cuteness of my tongue... who knows?
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
I tend to use the " [Big Grin] " smilie to show my silliness. [Big Grin]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Polemarch (Member # 3293) on :
 
Jeeze, get a room, you two!

[ROFL]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
[Razz] *actually sticking my tongue out at Polemarch*
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
*Gets a room* Yah, now what?

[Evil Laugh]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Invite me over, we'll play halo, eat some cheetos, watch Monty Python and plot against celia.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
I'm in. Your invited. [Evil Laugh]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
You boys are cute when you're plotting against Celia.
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Only until she finds out, in which case we are cowards.
 
Posted by IndexCard (Member # 4585) on :
 
All of you who were reciting pi from memory, I have you beat. In 9th grade, I memorized 500 digits of pi from after the decimal in less than a week to beat my boyfriend at the time... and because I was really bored, and a huge nerd. [Laugh] Index

[ September 29, 2003, 03:47 AM: Message edited by: IndexCard ]
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
My birthday is in it, too... Weird. [Angst]
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
Good lord Index, 500 digits!!?? [Eek!]
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
hey, guys, what's goin--
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
*runs*

[Eek!] [Angst] [Eek!]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Just out of complete and utter boredom:

0952617937
8505811542

Any takers to try to decipher?
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
You folks have the geekiest Pi fights I've ever seen.
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
T_smith, I only speak in two bit format, not ten, thanks!
8472738332738332653282797977327085767632797032687982758333

Okay, nevermind. T_smith, 0952617937=3385. The other one later.

[ September 29, 2003, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: wieczorek ]
 
Posted by Godric (Member # 4587) on :
 
[Eek!]

You people are all freaks!

[Big Grin]

I love you all!

[Group Hug]
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
Yeah, that's what you get when "science class" to you means, "play with your calculator behind your book".
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
[Wink]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
Remember though, the enemy’s gate is down. [No No]

[Razz] [Taunt] [Razz] [Wave]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
That's Pi-lecious. [Big Grin]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
No, you mean πίτα - γευστη, yes? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
What was I thinking?

Hobbes [Smile]

[ September 29, 2003, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
That's the spirit [Razz]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
I know it's already been mentioned, but the movie is G-R-R-R-E-A-T! [Big Grin] Go watch it. Now. [Wave] <--*Me waving goodbye to you as you leave to go watch it*

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
movie.
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
Or maybe Mu-V?

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Nobody's gotten my message.

[Frown]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
 
Well if you told me how you encrypted it I could decrypt it... [Big Grin]

Seriously, I'm no good at decoding anything. And that includes subtle hints from females, things like shooting me is probably going to go right over my head. If not I probably wont remember anyways. [Big Grin]

Hobbes [Smile]
 
Posted by BelladonnaOrchid (Member # 188) on :
 
TS~

No watching Monty Python without me! Wait up!

[Laugh] I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!

....wait a second there....something wrong with that being in my post...
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Hobbes,

Enter in the 10 digits I gave you get the number of places after the decimal point for each one.

Write down each number, and try to decode it, putting in letters for the corresponding number.

Note: if there is a 1, it could add on to the next one. So instead of 1 and 7 it could be 17.

Just a note, of course.
 
Posted by meltingsnowman (Member # 4559) on :
 
Speaking of weird transcendental constants...I have a question for any of the geeky here particularly skilled in the areas of math and/or physics...any takers?
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
::looks over at Hobbes::
 
Posted by HollowEarth (Member # 2586) on :
 
just ask it. people will come out of the woodwork to answer it.
 
Posted by meltingsnowman (Member # 4559) on :
 
Note: this is from a Physics Exam I just took, i have turned it in, so im not cheating or anything like that.

OK, You shoot a ball of mass m, verticaly with velocity 2*Vt, where Vt is the terminal velocty.
air resistance is linear such that,
Force = -bv and , where b is some constant of drag.

In terms of m, b and g(gravity),

a)find, the Time it takes the ball to travel to its apex,

b)find the height H of the apex

c)find the velocity with which it hits the ground after falling down

What I found interesting is that then solving part c, the ratio between the time up, and the time down, is constant, independent of m, b, or g
and the constant is a non terminating, non repeating decimal,(or so it would seem) I was wondering, if anyone else could find the exact value of this constant? like, the natural log of something divided by the natural log of something else?

Stuff to help you if you try,
V(t) = Vt*(1-e^(-bt/m))

^
|
|
Velocity as a function of time, for linear air resistance.

m*g = b*Vt
 
Posted by meltingsnowman (Member # 4559) on :
 
oh yea, the constant turns out to be around, 1.568184792...
If any of you know that is off the top of your head, so you dont have to work it all out
(And, no its not Pi/2, its close, but not really)
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
meltingsnowman, Your solution doesn't work in the limit where b = 0 (no drag). In this case the ration of the time up to the time down = 1. As the drag coefficient increases, this has to change.
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
Ah, I see part of my problem. The initial velocity of the ball is twice the terman velocity. As b goes to zero, the terminal velocity will approach infinity. As a result the time up and the time down will also approach infinity making the ratio of the two an indeterminate form.
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
meltingsnowman, Your answer doesn't work because the sign of the gravitational force doesn't change between when the ball is going up and when the ball is coming down, but the sign of the drag force does change when the ball changes directions. When the ball is going up the solution should be

V(t) = Vt(1-3e^(-bt/m))

When the ball is coming down the solution should be

V(t) = Vt(1-e^(-b(t-tup)/m))

where tup is the time it takes the ball to reach the appex or m ln(3)/b.

so that gives me the height at the apex equals

x = (m^2g/b^2)(ln(3)+2/3);

and I can't get an explicit solution for the time down.

[ September 30, 2003, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: The Rabbit ]
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
[interjection]Annie, did you know that in Ivan's apartment at Ricks they had the walls of the living room totally covered with white paper? That way, anyone could write whatever they wanted to on the walls. It was chief flirting spot and there was a lifesize cardboard cutout of John Wayne...but the coolest thing was, along the ceiling, like a border, Mike and Ivan were always in the process of writing the digits of pi. It got longer and longer and it was hilarious. Sorry. This thread just reminded me of that. [/interjection]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
WHy does that not surprise me? (see my earlier apple pi comment - guess who that was for?)
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
T,

0298302355
0051789161
4437455305
4068863415
6904117641
4183284801
7938104240
8505811542
0434011804
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
Annie, how did I miss that? You're hilarious and oh so creative. [ROFL] Somebody a whole lot cooler is going to appreciate that one of these days. [Wink] :giggles to self:
 
Posted by The Rabbit (Member # 671) on :
 
Annie, My younger sister once made square pies for a high school math club party with πr^2 written carved in the top crust.
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
To anyone who wants to do something with their spare time...

7370328532838069786832847269328473776932853272658669327884727378713284793268793287738472327978328472738332847269783273326568777382693285

Any takers?
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
That took me about 45 seconds. I appreciate your admiration, though.
 
Posted by meltingsnowman (Member # 4559) on :
 
Im still very confident of my solution, i checked it many many times for many many hours. The time up you got was right, but the distance wasnt, perhaps you integrated wrong? It should have been
H = g(m/b)^2 * (2-ln(3))

here are the solutions posted by our instructor,

http://dustbunny.physics.indiana.edu/~dzierba/HonorsPhysics/qe/exam1_sol.pdf

He left the time down as an equation you sould solve for T when you had definite values to plug in. I found (by running serveral differnt starting varibles) that the time up and time down were proportional by that constant
 
Posted by wieczorek (Member # 5565) on :
 
good job, pop. But then I suppose...hmm...well...good job... [Big Grin]
 


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