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Posted by Alex Johansen (Member # 9090) on :
 
Whoa! Twenty-one* pages, it would take me about 2 weeks to read them all, but what i read of the first page soudns good, can someone sum up the thread for me?

* The rule for numbers is anything below twenty-six [you have to write out], right? and are tehre hyphens in between the numbers, and is in between a proper way to form a sentence? Or should I just use between?


-edit- more to be added in a few minutes, in between classes right now

-edit-

Ok, now to add to my original post. I have mostly questions, of course. Will Jane introduce herself in this book? When will Shadows of Flight come out? What is SoF going to be about? (Peter, right?) What are the best names for "Ender: Spaceman" so far? What about worst? Funniest?

Now for comments:
Wow! A Mazer Rackham novel, sounds interesting, will it be about him "defeating" the buggers? (not really a comment, just a question hidden in an exclamatory statement)
Okay, I suppose I just thought of more questions, instead of more comments, and the comments I origianlly had planned have fled my thought for the moment. If I remember my comments, ill state them, but mostly just questions, more questions!

How can a post Children of the Mind book link the Speaker and Shadow series?

*SPOILER* - Shadow series, before SotG but after Ender's Shadow, not sure of the exact book, the one where Bean and you-know chase you-know-who and then you-know gets his you-know-what back (I would be very appreciative if someone could name the book I'm speaking of)
I would like to assume that Petra had strong foresight when she said "Someday a whole planet will be made of people like you" when talking to Bean, and that Path is that said planet... Only full of people smarter than Bean! Because they are Chinese! That makes them all the more wiser!

[ January 27, 2006, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: Alex Johansen ]
 
Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
 
Whoa! Twenty-two pages, it would take me about 2 weeks to read them all, but what i read of the first page soudns good, can someone sum up the thread for me?

The rule for numbers is anything below twenty-six [you have to write out], right? and are tehre hyphens in between the numbers, and is in between a proper way to form a sentence? Or should I just use between?

-edit- more to be added in a few minutes, in between classes right now.

--Felt like making that easier to read--
 
Posted by Subhuman (Member # 9052) on :
 
Shadow of the Hegemon is that book.
 
Posted by V'era (Member # 9079) on :
 
It is? But I thought there was a 'new' one just mentioned, and SotH isn't that new...
 
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
 
There is another book OSC is thinking about writing.

One (whose name he chose for a working title) called something along the lines of 'Ender in Exile'.

Basic story to it? Can't remember all that well, but what I do remember would throw in some spoilers for SotG, so I won't say them.
 
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
 
Rules for numbers:

There are different rules, and different publishing houses follow the one they choose.

One rule is that numbers up to and including TWENTY are spelled out, and numbers 21 and above can be numerals.

Another rule is that any number that can be expressed as two words (even if hyphenated) are spelled out, and larger numbers are given as numerals.

Yet another is that any number from one hundred on down is spelled out, and numbers 101 and above are written as numerals.

And then you have the mixed ones: 17 million rather than seventeen million or 17,000,000. Or even $17 million rather than 17 million dollars (or vice versa).

It's to make decisions like this that publishing houses maintain their own in-house style guides. Aren't you glad you don't have to worry about maintaining consistency?

(The real rule: Whatever communicates most easily.)

(The rule I hate most: If the first word in a sentence is a number, it must be spelled out no matter how long it is: Seven hundred forty-two thousand babies are born with the tragedy of "outie" navels every year. Personally, I don't see why we can't have the sentence read: 742,000 babies are born with the tragedy of "outie" navels every year. Just because you can't "capitalize" a numeral? I consider all numerals to be capitalized. Except fractions.)
 
Posted by JennaDean (Member # 8816) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Orson Scott Card:
Seven hundred forty-two thousand babies are born with the tragedy of "outie" navels every year. Personally, I don't see why we can't have the sentence read: 742,000 babies are born with the tragedy of "outie" navels every year.

I had no idea an "outie" was a tragedy.

I need to go grieve for my son now.
 
Posted by Mary Robinette (Member # 8388) on :
 
I had no idea you could be born with an outie navel. I thought navels happened after birth.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Orson Scott Card:
Rules for numbers:

(The real rule: Whatever communicates most easily.)
)

So true. I am taking a university seminar currently from a published author, who spends a considerable amount of time correcting our type-style mistakes and inconsistencies, eg: Instead of saying a peice of music scored for 2 horns, you write: Horn I, II

It's really tiring actually: Do I use an n-dash or an m--dash? Do I have smart fonts or not?
 


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