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Posted by Hone Melgren (Member # 7340) on :
 
I'm just on the last few pages of the latest book of the Alvin maker series and i've gotten myself a little confused .

Throughout the book there is discussion about Alvin teaching people how to be makers .

Now I know i've read books 1 to 4 but i'm unsure if I have read book 5 or not . You see i can remember a few passages in the beginning so when i hired it from the library recently i immediately returned it thinking that i've read it (yes I got book 5 out before but i might of accidently returned it without finishing reading it)

When does this occur (ie Alvin giving classes and teaching people to be makers)?
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
Well, even if you have read book 5, there is something like a 6 year gap between it and Crystal City. Lots of stuff happens, some of which is documented in a short story or two that were published elsewhere.
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
Alvin was teaching Makery in book four (Alvin Journeyman) -- this led to the Amy Sump issue, you may recall. Alvin left, and Measure took over teaching.

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--Pop
 
Posted by Hone Melgren (Member # 7340) on :
 
Well shucks you folks are right friendly like =) *sniff* *sniff*

So it seems I have missed something there . The part where Alvin is teaching makery - is it a major section where doodlebugs are explained and how you get one or is it just refered to in passing ?
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
*some very minor spoilers below for those who haven't read the entire series*

Most of the makery teaching never got as far as doodlebugs -- Only Calvin and Arthur really make any use of them, and that wasn't from the classes. Calvin's use is notable in Heartfire, when it gets trapped accidentally in the net. I can't recall for sure, but I think Arthur's use of his isn't pointed out much before The Crystal City. But some of his "making" instruction from Alvin does occur in the two short stories (Grinning Man and Yazoo Queen) which occur between Heartfire and The Crystal City, so there may be more direct references to its use.

--Pop
 
Posted by 0range7Penguin (Member # 7337) on :
 
Papa Moose-
Where can those short stories be found because if they are in anthologies or fantasy collections I would like to pick up copies. Thanks,
-0range7Penguin
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
Legends and Legends II anthologies (second one not available in paperback yet, it appears).

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